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By requiring hardware attestation, like Private Access Tokens in iOS/MacOS (see https://blog.cloudflare.com/eliminating-captchas-on-iphones-... for example) and Web Environment Integrity and its successors (…

comment by mirashii · 2026-08-30 · in California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law

The future is now (actually 2 years ago): https://github.com/explainers-by-googlers/Web-Environment-In...

comment by GeoAtreides · 2025-07-22 · in How to Firefox

Are you referring to the Web Environment Integrity[0] stuff, or something else? 'cos WEI was abandoned in late 2023. [0] https://github.com/explainers-by-googlers/Web-Environment-In...

comment by darrenf · 2025-04-03 · in Curl-impersonate: Special build of curl that can impersonate the major browsers

The problem is that any solution so far proposed for this is very privacy-unfriendly. For example, Google proposed https://github.com/explainers-by-googlers/Web-Environment-In... and this was shot down by privacy advocates (for very good…

comment by peanut-walrus · 2025-01-03 · in Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience

The author seems misinformed about the purpose of TPM to DRM schemes. The purpose of a TPM, in this case, is not to provide encryption, but instead to provide so-called ‘authenticity’. A TPM with its attestation capabilities can allow a…

comment by ntqvm · 2025-01-02 · in The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM

…I actually thought it was a pretty good idea but there were some privacy risks so it ended up DOA. https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by mattboardman · 2024-06-25 · in Bots Compose 42% of Overall Web Traffic; Nearly Two-Thirds Are Malicious

https://github.com/explainers-by-googlers/Web-Environment-In...

comment by RockRobotRock · 2024-03-29 · in Show HN: Detecting adblock, without JavaScript, by abusing HTTP 103 responses

For what it is worth google has fortunately abandonded the WEI proposal, a quote from the README of https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/ NOTE: This proposal is no longer pursued. Thank you for all the constructive…

comment by zorgmonkey · 2023-11-05 · in Linux and TPMs with systemd measured boot [video]

Github Repo has the following [0]: >> NOTE: This proposal is no longer pursued. [0]: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity

comment by thunderbong · 2023-11-03 · in Looks like Google just abandoned its "Web Environment Integrity" API plans

Repo has be archived - "NOTE: This proposal is no longer pursued." https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity

comment by heywintermute · 2023-11-02 · in An experimental Android WebView Media Integrity API early next year

…when money is involved. [1] - https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/Ux5h_... [2] - https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by devsda · 2023-09-03 · in The boiling frog of digital freedom

I think the best issue raised is: Why would I, as a user, want this? https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by the_lego · 2023-08-14 · in It's time we do a uno reverse to Web Integrity API

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story by thunderbong · 2023-08-12 · 0 comments

There were proposals for protecting against this in the WEI explainer under "Open Questions" https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by judge2020 · 2023-08-08 · in Your computer should say what you tell it to say

…for WEI: "Enforce or interfere with browser functionality, including plugins and extensions." https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by meragrin_ · 2023-08-03 · in Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... """ Attester-level acceptable browser policy If the community thinks it's important for the attestation to include the platform identity of the application, and is more…

comment by wzdd · 2023-08-03 · in Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

> How about you offer a reasonable opposing viewpoint Read the proposal: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... >That's settled then. Full filesystem, location, camera, and microphone access should therefore come…

comment by cowl · 2023-08-03 · in Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For

…of HN treats the upvote as "I agree/like this" instead of "boost this topic for discussion". 0: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36785516

comment by judge2020 · 2023-08-03 · in Disables WebEnvironmentIntegrity feature and origin trials

…where that dynamic is inherent. to play the devil's advocate, this is why google proposed the WEI ( https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... ). Be careful what you wish for...

comment by chii · 2023-08-03 · in Adtech is built on a privacy fault line

…blockers at all here. The first example in the WEI doc is enforcing that ads are viewed by humans: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by orangecat · 2023-08-01 · in “Web Environment Integrity”: Locking Down the Web

…considered the virtues of this to be. https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852 https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... I stopped reading after the explainer’s intro section. The first example is…

comment by seo-speedwagon · 2023-07-30 · in The Right to Lie and Google’s “Web Environment Integrity”

…WEI needs that data to enable the kind of "DRM for the web" use cases we're reading about. https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by CharlesW · 2023-07-28 · in “Web Environment Integrity” is an attack on the free Internet

…the motivation is against that, luring people for the $20 is just the bait, literally a bait. [1] https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity [2] in the article itself “If proof of personhood is not solved, decentralized…

comment by tamimio · 2023-07-28 · in Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse

…reaching that conclusion. Suppressing GET request noise isn't any of the use cases described at https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by shadowgovt · 2023-07-27 · in Google's browser security plan slammed as dangerous, terrible, DRM for websites

One of the devs is using the CoC to silence criticism, even CoC-based criticism: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by 634636346 · 2023-07-27 · in Google Web Environment Integrity Is the New Microsoft Trusted Computing

…he wants on his own device. https://benwiser.com/blog/I-just-spent-%C2%A3700-to-have-my-... https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity

comment by dcposch · 2023-07-26 · in Unpacking Google’s Web Environment Integrity specification

Not exactly a nutshell, but here's an explainer: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... And here's why it may be bad: https://vivaldi.com/blog/googles-new-dangerous-web-environme... And the HN discussion on the…

comment by stronglikedan · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

Direct link to comment: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by mthoms · 2023-07-26 · in Google employee responds to negative feedbacks on WEI

That one is 5 days old. The one being referenced is https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by mthoms · 2023-07-26 · in Google employee responds to negative feedbacks on WEI

…Some potential stakeholders are already suggesting to scrap holdback to support their use-cases ( https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... ), leading to the possibility that it may not even be part of the final…

comment by nneonneo · 2023-07-26 · in Unpacking Google’s Web Environment Integrity specification

…server for further use (like a recaptcha token). So for something like curl it could be no change. https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by pdanpdan · 2023-07-26 · in Unpacking Google’s Web Environment Integrity specification

See the original note: It was much more of a "maybe we could do this, but it has a lot of problems": https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by kevincox · 2023-07-26 · in Google employee responds to negative feedbacks on WEI

I think the actual comment is this one? https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... On my phone this is collapsed and hard to find by default.

comment by mikelward · 2023-07-26 · in Google employee responds to negative feedbacks on WEI

…through attestation. Continue to allow web browsers to browse the Web without attestation. From: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... If it actually won't do any of those things, then that should be debated first.

comment by ec109685 · 2023-07-26 · in Unpacking Google’s Web Environment Integrity specification

My email: Google has proposed a new Web Environment Integrity standard, outlined here: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... . This standard would allow Google applications to block users who are not using Google…

comment by burkaman · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

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story by luag · 2023-07-26 · 25 comments

…They're not keeping user data secure... Which is mentioned in their take-over-the-web document: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... If they can't do it now, how are they going to do it with WIE?

comment by WirelessGigabit · 2023-07-26 · in New Nitrogen malware pushed via Google Ads for ransomware attacks

…else is curious to see Google's "side" (motivations, technical or otherwise), here's the explainer: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... It's nakedly user-hostile. A blatant attempt to invert the "user agent"…

comment by strix_varius · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

…the time or so, making it impossible for websites to deny individuals based on failing attestation? https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by dontreact · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

…Coles <torne@chromium.org> Shame on Kinuko Yasuda <kinuko@chromium.org> Shame on Rupert Ben Wiser: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity Google needs to be broken up.

comment by danlindley · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

…banks that want attestation do not want you using niche browsers to login to their services. [0] https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by kmeisthax · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

…is already pushback against it from others closely involved in the spec & discussion around this ( https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... ) and notably the attestation feature Google already shipped on Android for…

comment by pimterry · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by mwill · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

For context, this is a 2022 blog post by the author of the Google Web Environment Integrity spec ( https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity - overview at https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/25/google_web_environmen... ).…

comment by btown · 2023-07-26 · in I just spent £700 to have my own app on my iPhone (2022)

Is https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... the best place to shame?

comment by foobarbecue · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium

…pushback against holdbacks from others closely involved in the spec & discussion around this ( https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... ) and ignores that the attestation they already shipped on Android for exactly…

comment by pimterry · 2023-07-26 · in Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible

The latest, tone-deaf response from a Google engineer: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by zb3 · 2023-07-26 · in Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible

…closed discussion, saying they'd bring it back at the end of the weekend and not bringing it back. https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... Google went down this accusatory path before, when they sought to remove the…

comment by benatkin · 2023-07-25 · in “I don't know why this enrages folks so much.” Googler re Chrome anti-feature

https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...

comment by charcircuit · 2023-07-25 · in So, you don't like a web platform proposal