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90 mentions on Hacker News by 78 people: 13 stories, 77 comments · first 2023-05-08 · latest 2026-08-30

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  1. By requiring hardware attestation, like Private Access Tokens in iOS/MacOS (see https://blog.cloudflare.com/eliminating-captchas-on-iphones-... for example) and Web Environment Integrity and its successors (…
    comment by mirashii · 2026-08-30 · in California lawmakers unanimously pass Linux exemption from age-verification law
  2. The future is now (actually 2 years ago): https://github.com/explainers-by-googlers/Web-Environment-In...
    comment by GeoAtreides · 2025-07-22 · in How to Firefox
  3. Are you referring to the Web Environment Integrity[0] stuff, or something else? 'cos WEI was abandoned in late 2023. [0] https://github.com/explainers-by-googlers/Web-Environment-In...
    comment by darrenf · 2025-04-03 · in Curl-impersonate: Special build of curl that can impersonate the major browsers
  4. The problem is that any solution so far proposed for this is very privacy-unfriendly. For example, Google proposed https://github.com/explainers-by-googlers/Web-Environment-In... and this was shot down by privacy advocates (for very good…
    comment by peanut-walrus · 2025-01-03 · in Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience
  5. The author seems misinformed about the purpose of TPM to DRM schemes. The purpose of a TPM, in this case, is not to provide encryption, but instead to provide so-called ‘authenticity’. A TPM with its attestation capabilities can allow a…
    comment by ntqvm · 2025-01-02 · in The GPU, not the TPM, is the root of hardware DRM
  6. …I actually thought it was a pretty good idea but there were some privacy risks so it ended up DOA. https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by mattboardman · 2024-06-25 · in Bots Compose 42% of Overall Web Traffic; Nearly Two-Thirds Are Malicious
  7. https://github.com/explainers-by-googlers/Web-Environment-In...
    comment by RockRobotRock · 2024-03-29 · in Show HN: Detecting adblock, without JavaScript, by abusing HTTP 103 responses
  8. For what it is worth google has fortunately abandonded the WEI proposal, a quote from the README of https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/ NOTE: This proposal is no longer pursued. Thank you for all the constructive…
    comment by zorgmonkey · 2023-11-05 · in Linux and TPMs with systemd measured boot [video]
  9. Github Repo has the following [0]: >> NOTE: This proposal is no longer pursued. [0]: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity
    comment by thunderbong · 2023-11-03 · in Looks like Google just abandoned its "Web Environment Integrity" API plans
  10. Repo has be archived - "NOTE: This proposal is no longer pursued." https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity
    comment by heywintermute · 2023-11-02 · in An experimental Android WebView Media Integrity API early next year
  11. …when money is involved. [1] - https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/Ux5h_... [2] - https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by devsda · 2023-09-03 · in The boiling frog of digital freedom
  12. I think the best issue raised is: Why would I, as a user, want this? https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by the_lego · 2023-08-14 · in It's time we do a uno reverse to Web Integrity API
  13. There were proposals for protecting against this in the WEI explainer under "Open Questions" https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by judge2020 · 2023-08-08 · in Your computer should say what you tell it to say
  14. …for WEI: "Enforce or interfere with browser functionality, including plugins and extensions." https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by meragrin_ · 2023-08-03 · in Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For
  15. https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... """ Attester-level acceptable browser policy If the community thinks it's important for the attestation to include the platform identity of the application, and is more…
    comment by wzdd · 2023-08-03 · in Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For
  16. > How about you offer a reasonable opposing viewpoint Read the proposal: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... >That's settled then. Full filesystem, location, camera, and microphone access should therefore come…
    comment by cowl · 2023-08-03 · in Google’s Plan to DRM the Web Goes Against Everything Google Once Stood For
  17. …of HN treats the upvote as "I agree/like this" instead of "boost this topic for discussion". 0: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36785516
    comment by judge2020 · 2023-08-03 · in Disables WebEnvironmentIntegrity feature and origin trials
  18. …where that dynamic is inherent. to play the devil's advocate, this is why google proposed the WEI ( https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... ). Be careful what you wish for...
    comment by chii · 2023-08-03 · in Adtech is built on a privacy fault line
  19. …blockers at all here. The first example in the WEI doc is enforcing that ads are viewed by humans: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by orangecat · 2023-08-01 · in “Web Environment Integrity”: Locking Down the Web
  20. …considered the virtues of this to be. https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852 https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... I stopped reading after the explainer’s intro section. The first example is…
    comment by seo-speedwagon · 2023-07-30 · in The Right to Lie and Google’s “Web Environment Integrity”
  21. …WEI needs that data to enable the kind of "DRM for the web" use cases we're reading about. https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by CharlesW · 2023-07-28 · in “Web Environment Integrity” is an attack on the free Internet
  22. …the motivation is against that, luring people for the $20 is just the bait, literally a bait. [1] https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity [2] in the article itself “If proof of personhood is not solved, decentralized…
    comment by tamimio · 2023-07-28 · in Worldcoin isn’t as bad as it sounds: It’s worse
  23. …reaching that conclusion. Suppressing GET request noise isn't any of the use cases described at https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by shadowgovt · 2023-07-27 · in Google's browser security plan slammed as dangerous, terrible, DRM for websites
  24. One of the devs is using the CoC to silence criticism, even CoC-based criticism: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by 634636346 · 2023-07-27 · in Google Web Environment Integrity Is the New Microsoft Trusted Computing
  25. …he wants on his own device. https://benwiser.com/blog/I-just-spent-%C2%A3700-to-have-my-... https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity
    comment by dcposch · 2023-07-26 · in Unpacking Google’s Web Environment Integrity specification
  26. Not exactly a nutshell, but here's an explainer: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... And here's why it may be bad: https://vivaldi.com/blog/googles-new-dangerous-web-environme... And the HN discussion on the…
    comment by stronglikedan · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
  27. Direct link to comment: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by mthoms · 2023-07-26 · in Google employee responds to negative feedbacks on WEI
  28. That one is 5 days old. The one being referenced is https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by mthoms · 2023-07-26 · in Google employee responds to negative feedbacks on WEI
  29. …Some potential stakeholders are already suggesting to scrap holdback to support their use-cases ( https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... ), leading to the possibility that it may not even be part of the final…
    comment by nneonneo · 2023-07-26 · in Unpacking Google’s Web Environment Integrity specification
  30. …server for further use (like a recaptcha token). So for something like curl it could be no change. https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by pdanpdan · 2023-07-26 · in Unpacking Google’s Web Environment Integrity specification
  31. See the original note: It was much more of a "maybe we could do this, but it has a lot of problems": https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by kevincox · 2023-07-26 · in Google employee responds to negative feedbacks on WEI
  32. I think the actual comment is this one? https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... On my phone this is collapsed and hard to find by default.
    comment by mikelward · 2023-07-26 · in Google employee responds to negative feedbacks on WEI
  33. …through attestation. Continue to allow web browsers to browse the Web without attestation. From: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... If it actually won't do any of those things, then that should be debated first.
    comment by ec109685 · 2023-07-26 · in Unpacking Google’s Web Environment Integrity specification
  34. My email: Google has proposed a new Web Environment Integrity standard, outlined here: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... . This standard would allow Google applications to block users who are not using Google…
    comment by burkaman · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
  35. …They're not keeping user data secure... Which is mentioned in their take-over-the-web document: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... If they can't do it now, how are they going to do it with WIE?
    comment by WirelessGigabit · 2023-07-26 · in New Nitrogen malware pushed via Google Ads for ransomware attacks
  36. …else is curious to see Google's "side" (motivations, technical or otherwise), here's the explainer: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... It's nakedly user-hostile. A blatant attempt to invert the "user agent"…
    comment by strix_varius · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
  37. …the time or so, making it impossible for websites to deny individuals based on failing attestation? https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by dontreact · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
  38. …Coles <torne@chromium.org> Shame on Kinuko Yasuda <kinuko@chromium.org> Shame on Rupert Ben Wiser: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity Google needs to be broken up.
    comment by danlindley · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
  39. …banks that want attestation do not want you using niche browsers to login to their services. [0] https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by kmeisthax · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
  40. …is already pushback against it from others closely involved in the spec & discussion around this ( https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... ) and notably the attestation feature Google already shipped on Android for…
    comment by pimterry · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
  41. https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by mwill · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
  42. For context, this is a 2022 blog post by the author of the Google Web Environment Integrity spec ( https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity - overview at https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/25/google_web_environmen... ).…
    comment by btown · 2023-07-26 · in I just spent £700 to have my own app on my iPhone (2022)
  43. Is https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... the best place to shame?
    comment by foobarbecue · 2023-07-26 · in Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
  44. …pushback against holdbacks from others closely involved in the spec & discussion around this ( https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... ) and ignores that the attestation they already shipped on Android for exactly…
    comment by pimterry · 2023-07-26 · in Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible
  45. The latest, tone-deaf response from a Google engineer: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by zb3 · 2023-07-26 · in Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible
  46. …closed discussion, saying they'd bring it back at the end of the weekend and not bringing it back. https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... Google went down this accusatory path before, when they sought to remove the…
    comment by benatkin · 2023-07-25 · in “I don't know why this enrages folks so much.” Googler re Chrome anti-feature
  47. https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by charcircuit · 2023-07-25 · in So, you don't like a web platform proposal
  48. …means that it will be used. How is this not DRM? And how is this not dangerous to the open web? [1] https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by goku12 · 2023-07-25 · in So, you don't like a web platform proposal
  49. …the proposal's proponents, but the API owners [2], many of whom are not Google employees. [1] https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... [2] https://blog.chromium.org/2019/11/intent-to-explain-demystif... P.S. I'd love…
    comment by yoavweiss_ · 2023-07-25 · in So, you don't like a web platform proposal
  50. …the politics aspect of it (I think...), but what's the new technical thing being added here? [0]: https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/...
    comment by rtpg · 2023-07-25 · in So, you don't like a web platform proposal