AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX on Hacker News

…out against it. Not long after the announcement, people were sharing "collisions" on Github ( https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... ) showing that fake positives would be a problem (any alarm bells?)... which then…

comment by luuurker · 2024-11-07 · in Private Cloud Compute Security Guide

…ones reported by the police using a "neural hash", which has a non-zero amount of hash collisions. https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue...

comment by jacooper · 2023-10-01 · in Europol sought unlimited data access in online child sexual abuse regulation

Or just make your own fake/questionable hash collisions with a script Some Guy made on Github: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX

comment by smoldesu · 2022-11-22 · in iCloud for Windows downloading other people's photos

…have researchers decompiling and scrubbing through the OS to see what’s in it and what it does[0]. https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX

comment by judge2020 · 2021-12-15 · in Apple removes references to CSAM from its child safety webpage

…NeuralHash was broken by researchers. This project apparently is able to create CSAM collisions: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX If NeuralHash is really rolled out, and if this python project can really create…

comment by evv · 2021-10-31 · in Show HN: Use your iPhone's camera to see any photo on your wall

…different picture create a collision though. Allow me to introduce you to my posts on github: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... Where I post good looking examples of standard test images altered fairly subtly…

comment by nullc · 2021-08-30 · in A Screeching Voice of the Minority

…metric, or condition your gradient descent to prefer good looking results. In my examples ( https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... ) I used a gaussian blur to highpass the error between my starting image and the…

comment by nullc · 2021-08-25 · in Show HN: 59a34eabe31910abfb06f308 – NeuralHash Collision Demo

…Please stop repeating this falsehood. Here are some examples I generated (with a link to more): https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue...

comment by nullc · 2021-08-25 · in A catalog of naturally occurring images whose Apple NeuralHash is identical

…the visual content too much. You can. Here is an example I created (with links to more): https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... I'm so tired of people suggesting that you can't. Please explain to me why you posted…

comment by nullc · 2021-08-25 · in A catalog of naturally occurring images whose Apple NeuralHash is identical

…to preimage attacks: I can take random unrelated photos and make them match other hashes, https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... This means people can take child porn images and modify them so they match targeted…

comment by nullc · 2021-08-25 · in Nirvana sued by the man who appeared on Nevermind’s album cover as a baby

…exactly. This algorithm doesn't even give exact matches for the same image on different hardware. https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX Note: Neural hash generated here might be a few bits off from one generated on an iOS…

comment by scotty79 · 2021-08-25 · in A catalog of naturally occurring images whose Apple NeuralHash is identical

…tps://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/p930wu/i_wont_be_pos... Here's a really high quality collision: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX//issu... Here's 2 totally different images off by a single BIT:…

comment by adriancr · 2021-08-22 · in Apple Just Gave Millions of Users a Reason to Quit Their iPhones

…[1] I've made a statement that I won't be posting any more preimages for now for that reason: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue...

comment by nullc · 2021-08-21 · in EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

…to construct preimages for Apple's neural hash function, including fairly good looking ones (e.g. https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... ) > collide with another secret hash function The supposed other 'secret'…

comment by nullc · 2021-08-21 · in EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

…state agent. There is no opportunity to learn, much less challenge the content of the database. [1] https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue...

comment by nullc · 2021-08-21 · in EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... I posted some examples that look like totally normal images, they're no harder to produce, you just need to noise-shape the gradient descent so that the introduced noise has a…

comment by nullc · 2021-08-20 · in Show HN: Neural-hash-collider – Find target hash collisions for NeuralHash

…images of nudity could be caught in it is because This is an absurd claim. I have demonstrated ( https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... ) that it is possible to alter existing images to match an arbitrary…

comment by nullc · 2021-08-20 · in Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model

…images here. They don't look anything like the original despite perfectly matching the NeuralHash: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue...

comment by yeldarb · 2021-08-19 · in ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash collisions

…us are unlikely to be targets of this kind of attack is little comfort to those that may be. [1]: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue...

comment by yusefnapora · 2021-08-19 · in ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash collisions

The instructions are here: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX This was discussed on HN yesterday here (and a few other front-page stories): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28218391

comment by yeldarb · 2021-08-19 · in ImageNet contains naturally occurring Apple NeuralHash collisions

…to generate adversarial examples looks like; I don't think anyone in the big thread on the topic ( https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... ) has shared attack code for NeuralHash in particular yet.

comment by anishathalye · 2021-08-19 · in Show HN: Neural-hash-collider – Find target hash collisions for NeuralHash

…are behind the curve, attempts to crack the hashing algorithm more efficiently are still ongoing: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... > [..] not the final implementation [..] Why on earth would you invite people…

comment by bArray · 2021-08-19 · in Apple defends anti-child abuse imagery tech after claims of ‘hash collisions’

Update: The latest results now have second-preimages that are other photos, not just noise. https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... They still look pretty bad, but attacks only get better!

comment by nullc · 2021-08-18 · in Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model

…"Who cares? The whole point is that there will be plenty of false positives.", this is pre-image: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue...

comment by pkulak · 2021-08-18 · in Hash collision in Apple NeuralHash model

…an ideal scenario of this technology not the reality. EDIT: Proof on the front page on HN right now https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue...

comment by SV_BubbleTime · 2021-08-18 · in Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX

…(from [1]) instead. [0]: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1328/129860810-f41... [1]: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue...

comment by wizzwizz4 · 2021-08-18 · in Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX

Apparently not that hard: https://github.com/AsuharietYgvar/AppleNeuralHash2ONNX/issue... . See also here: https://gist.github.com/unrealwill/c480371c3a4bf3abb29856c29...

comment by misterdata · 2021-08-18 · in Convert Apple NeuralHash model for CSAM Detection to ONNX