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  1. …harmful to the openness of the Web ecosystem and are not good for users. The full response is here: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852#is...
  2. …up again, here are my thoughts on the spec: - Mozilla is already publicly and officially opposed ( https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852#is... ), on principle ("Any browser, server, or publisher that implements common…
  3. > Mozilla opposes this proposal because it contradicts our principles and vision for the Web. https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852 I guess they would.
  4. …outline which goals are objectionable and why. Mozilla folks did a good job at articulating that in https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852#is ... Well, you asked for it, so here goes. WEI (IIUC) requires (at least the…
    comment by nobody9999 · 2023-07-25 · in So, you don't like a web platform proposal
  5. …which goals are objectionable and why . Mozilla folks did a good job at articulating that in https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852#is... A couple of things I should've included in that post and didn't: * It's important…
    comment by yoavweiss_ · 2023-07-25 · in So, you don't like a web platform proposal
  6. …was raised in February for both Mozilla[1] and WebKit[2] and neither have been responded to. [1] https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/753 [2] https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/142
  7. Given TFA, it looks like you can ask Mozilla for a position by opening a GitHub issue at https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions
  8. …[5] https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/Web-Environment-Integrity/... [6] https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852#is...
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    Mozilla Standards Positions Opposes Web Integrity API
    story by danShumway · 2023-07-25 · 323 comments
  10. Mozilla just took position against this DRM API: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/852#is... Also, Firefox just passed ahead of Chrome on some JS speed benchmark, so you should get ready to switch back!
  11. …it even exist at all?” wasn’t enough): https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/111 https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/622 https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/726
    comment by chrismorgan · 2023-07-13 · in New in Chrome 115
  12. …extension for that but not the bookmarking I was looking for.) A discussion about it is on GitHub: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/194 And there's some discussions on Reddit which are currently dead and I didn't…
  13. https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/698 https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/74 Hmm. I wish some other ones got as warm of a reception as this one.
    comment by benatkin · 2023-05-24 · in Popover API
  14. Mozilla is neutral on JPEG XL: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/522#is...
  15. I was curious about Mozilla's stance on the API. They have a GH issue for it: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/677 but it's not finalized yet. View the very interesting dashboard here:…
    comment by afraca · 2023-04-11 · in Htmx 1.9.0 has been released
  16. …gives a good summary of takes form both ends and why they decided their position was neutral https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/522#is...
  17. …[2] https://github.com/MicrosoftEdge/MSEdgeExplainers/blob/main/... [3] https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues?q=anch...
  18. Not implemented in Firefox yet, but they like it: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/695 They're tracking work in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1648037
    comment by jefftk · 2023-02-16 · in WebKit Supports Nested CSS
  19. Thankfully Firefox recently changed their stance from "Neutral" to "Positive". https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/pull/740 > Neutral stance: We're not convinced that the complexity this feature introduces upon the HTML parser…
    comment by j79 · 2023-02-13 · in Declarative Shadow DOM
  20. …usb port your device is connected to and "install." Bam, done. Firefox team views it as insecure: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/336
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    Mozilla concludes that JPEG-XL is not for them
    story by Strom · 2023-01-31 · 16 comments
  22. …think it's an acceptable outcome for the web platform to have that many ways to work with files" :) https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/481 This one never saw the light of day.
  23. …point. For the more general part of File System Access Mozilla's and Safari's positions are: nope. https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/154 There was also Storage Foundation API but it was thankfully never shipped (it was…
  24. …is shipped by default. What was the input from other browsers? Here's the timeline for HID: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/459#is... Constructible Stylesheets: the spec contained a trivially reproducible race…
  25. …standards. Edit. As to "then someone writes a standard". This also happens. See Web HID timeline: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/459#is... Same happened to WebRTC, by the way. Stable spec version was finally complete…
  26. …by default in 2016, and which still had issues in 2019 that both Firefox and Safari objected to: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/214 No idea what their position on it is now. And so on and so forth. But these articles…
  27. …codecs have been developed. I'd like to highlight two things there: My arguments for JPEG XL: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/522#is... -- it comes with links to 3rd party evidence of the somewhat outrageous but…
    comment by JyrkiAlakuijala · 2022-11-03 · in The case for JPEG XL
  28. …[2] - https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/hdr-output.html [3] - https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/522#is... [4] - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1539075#c23 [5] - https://github.com/exifto
  29. …For example, there is no way to get the URL if the protocol is `file://`. For a real world example: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/194#is... See the stack overflow issue: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67039633/g…
  30. …features please tell me one. Easy. The most obvious/glaring one is WebHID. Enjoy the timeline: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/459 It's not just HID, of course. All/most of the hardware APIs are considered harmful by…
  31. …a bit strong in my accusations, because these people are doing bad, & uncompromisingly so. [1] https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/pull/368/file... [2] https://microbit.org/get-started/user-guide/web-usb/ [3]…
    comment by rektide · 2022-06-09 · in What’s new in Safari and WebKit
  32. …& "Intent to Prototype". Ah yes. "Responsible". Here's a prime example of responsibility: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/459 > Chrome wants & believes in an alive standards making process, in advancing, carefully,…
    comment by dmitriid · 2022-06-08 · in What’s new in Safari and WebKit
  33. …will serve the majority of web bundles, allowing them to see what sites the user is visiting. https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/264 https://www.ghacks.net/2020/08/30/google-proposed-web-bundle...
  34. …(three years ago). Refs: - https://research.securitum.com/security-analysis-of-portal-e... - https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/157
  35. …three years ago Firefox's position was also largely negative due to unresolved security issues: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/58 It's possible those issues are now resolved, that's why it's making its way into…
    comment by dmitriid · 2022-03-15 · in New WebKit features in Safari 15.4
  36. Someone linked "Request for position" on these APIs: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/519#is... Here's Mozilla's response: --- start quote --- 4x4 transforms: There are a bunch of implementation concerns here (and…
    comment by dmitriid · 2022-03-04 · in It's always been you, Canvas2D
  37. > 1. ctx.roundRect() ... Note: I can't find mention of .roundRect() in the MDN documentation. https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/519#is... raised some questions about the addition of .roundRect(); I don't know if any…
    comment by jfk13 · 2022-03-04 · in It's always been you, Canvas2D
  38. …Or maybe look at the status of the APIs you so ardently defend. Example, WebHID timeline: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/459#is... etc. > It's also really important to be specific as to why the behaviour is harmful…
    comment by dmitriid · 2022-03-02 · in Open Web Advocacy
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    File System Access API
    story by bachmeier · 2022-02-05 · 0 comments
  40. …was had regarding this feature in Firefox[1] before brazenly claiming it's an obsolete browser. [1] https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/194
  41. …of the standard - asks other browser vendors for their position on "emerging standard". Example, https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/459 - ignores feedback, and enables by default (see link above) - advertises as fait…
  42. …feature [1], it comes at no surprise that major products are dropping Firefox compatibility. [1] https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/154
    comment by kushan2020 · 2021-10-26 · in Photoshop’s journey to the web
  43. …what is even the point of Firefox? (Disclaimer, I work on Firefox but I know anything about specs.) https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/453
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    Request for Mozilla Position on an Emerging Web Specification
    story by Hard_Space · 2021-09-22 · 0 comments
  45. …a Google specific thing. It's worth to note that Mozilla's position on this proposal is "harmful": https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/552
    comment by zebracanevra · 2021-09-16 · in Chrome user agent string reduction
  46. …storage/file api proposals, at least one of them is already in stable Chrome... it's a mess. [1] https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/481 [2] https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-dev/2021-February/...
    comment by dmitriid · 2021-08-13 · in A future for SQL on the web
  47. …pushes (and ships) "standards" so bad other browser developers can't even understand them [1] [1] https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/459 Edit: grammar and typos
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    Downgrade User Agent Client Hints to 'harmful'
    story by ronancremin · 2021-07-13 · 111 comments
  49. …and releases them against any objections. See WebHID as the best example of this: Issue https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/459#is... and timeline https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27512354
  50. …by Googlers only (sometimes with egregious disregard for standards work, see WebHID [1]). [1] Issue https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/459#is... and timeline https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27512354